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Info-Mac Digest             Thu,  8 Jul 93       Volume 11 : Issue 138

Today's Topics:

      (Q) Apple's Ramdisk for non-Portable Mac ? (Q)
      advice wanted on 21 meg floptical drives (Q)
      American Heritage Dictionary (R)
      American Heritage Dictionary (Wierd sub Q)
      AppleTalk hiccups
      Centris 610 Flames? (2 msgs)
      Classic Color info (Q)
      DEC Alphas & Macs
      EndNote/Medline
      Eudora Manuals (R)
      Flow chart program
      Fortran 77 compiler for the Macintosh
      Ftp site for PPD files? (C)
      Hard Drive Problem - A BIG ONE
      Helix Express -- Is it any good?
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #137
      La Cie
      LaserWriter 8 and A4 paper as the default
      LASERWRITER IIg - Margin adjustment
      Mailserver for info-mac
      Minitel
      Minitel sites (A)
      New Product
      Peripherals for the Power PC (Q)
      PowerBook/External Display/Finder 41 Error (Q)
      Problems Printing Labels from FileMaker Pro
      QuarkXPress 3.11 unexpectedly quits
      sending serial port output to network (Q)
      setting up a list server
      startup screen to 2nd monitor (R)
      The Real CrippleDrive Prob (reply to Chris Reed)
      Where be da Pere Ubu Stack?
      Wingz/Improv (C)

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 19:36:58 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Declan A. Rieb)
Subject: (Q) Apple's Ramdisk for non-Portable Mac ? (Q)

Is there any way to activate the RamDisk options in the Memory Control Panel
when
running 7.x on a machine other than a portable?

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:33:45 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Thomas Hunter)
Subject: advice wanted on 21 meg floptical drives (Q)

I am contemplating buying a 21 meg floptical drive and
have been having trouble finding info (other than from
the vendors.)
Can anyone direct me towards reviews or comment on the
reliability and stability of this technology?

Thanks

            Thomas Hunter ([e-mail])

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 17:20:53 -0600 (PDT)
From: Wil Clarke <[e-mail]>
Subject: American Heritage Dictionary (R)

I have owned AHED for a long time now. I have two criticisms.

1. MS Word v5.x will not let me use SAVE on the file menu after accessing
AHED. It forces me to use SAVE AS which is a real pain.

2. I have recently upgraded to a Quadra 750 and my old version of AHED no
longer works on the Quadra. They want me to pay $29.95 + $5.50 s&h + tax
to upgrade to a newer version where-as the new program plus the extras
like a thesaurus etc are available via mail-order for about $43.00
including next day delivery.

It would appear that registered users are the scum of the earth to AHED. I
would rate their user support on a scale from 1 to 10 at -10!

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Date: 8 Jul 1993 21:02:34 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Carl Haverl)
Subject: American Heritage Dictionary (Wierd sub Q)

The post about American Heritage Dictionary being a bit weak
in defining terms with a religious context made me remember
something wierd I discovered in the printed editions of AHD.

I have two copies of AHD which date from the mid 80's.  They
both have red covers, they are both illustrated, one has
the word 'College' in its title.  One has larger size pages than
the other, but other than this, a given page number is identical
in each volume, save that the page has been photographically
enlarged or reduced-- or rather almost identical.

Here is the wierdness.  I had occasion to look up the word
'pederast', and to my amazement, it was not in AHD.  For some
reason, I mentioned this to a friend, and he responded by
producing his own copy of AHD, which did contain the word.
Intrigued, I checked my other copy, and 'pederast' was there too.
On closer inspection, the copy lacking the definition had other
B---S--- definitions substituted to take up the proper amount
of column space.  VERY WIERD.

I still have both copies at home.  If anyone is interested, I can
supply ISBN numbers, lists of the words defined on the page in
question of each tome, etc.  I wrote a letter to the publisher
about this but never heard back...

I guess I'm wondering if this quirk persists in the current paper
or electronic editions.  I'm also wondering if anyone has discovered
anything similar or discovered any words which one would assume
to be in AHD but somehow aren't.




--
Carl Haverl
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:04:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ricardo C. Davis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: AppleTalk hiccups

Suspect:  Mac IIci / System 7.1 on a AppleTalk network.

When an AppleShare volume is unmounted (owner's Mac locks up,
owner turns off file sharing, etc.), then the Finder pops up
a dialog box saying "The disk ... cannot be used, because an
error of type -1,070 occurred."  I click the OK button, and in
a few seconds, the message pops up again.  I click the OK
button again, and in a few seconds, the message pops up again.
Nothing less than rebooting has seemed to fix the problem.
However, if I unmounted the volume myself, then the problem
doesn't show up.

Well, I perused the System Errors Table (3.1) and found that
that the error was under the catagory of "AppleTalk - ASP
(XPP driver)" and the explaination given to error -1,070 was
"Parameter Error".  What in the world does this mean???
What causes it?  How can I stop it from happening?


Ricardo C. Davis                                 Internet: [e-mail]
* Freedom is not the right to choose, freedom is the result of wise choices.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 12:10:13 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Centris 610 Flames?

[e-mail] writes:
>> Also, one of the cons of the 145B is that there is no option for
>> an FPU.
>> This was available with the 145. Based on all the flames about the
>> Centris 610, this would seem to be important. ;-)
>I would like to hear more about these Centris 610 flames. (Sorry I
>wasn't paying attention during the original flurry.) I am thinking
>of recommending this as a major purchase in our department. Am I
>wrong? What's the problem with it?

It doesn't have an fpu.  This shoudln't be a problem for most people
unless they're doing seriously math-intensive work.
-Terry

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 22:01:38 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Andrew M Langmead)
Subject: Centris 610 Flames?

[e-mail] writes:

>> Also, one of the cons of the 145B is that there is no option for
>> an FPU.
>> This was available with the 145. Based on all the flames about the
>> Centris 610, this would seem to be important. ;-)

>I would like to hear more about these Centris 610 flames. (Sorry I
>wasn't paying attention during the original flurry.) I am thinking
>of recommending this as a major purchase in our department. Am I
>wrong? What's the problem with it?

I think the previous poster may have been refering to rumors that
the Centris 610 could not have the 68LC040 (the model without floating
point hardware) replaced with a 68RC040 (the model with the internal FPU.)

The reasons stated vary between "It will fry the motherboard" to "The
heatsink gets in the way of any PDS cards, making it an unexpandable
machine." Both statements are wrong. Employees from Apple have reported
that Apple has tested Centris 610's with 68RC040 chips with no problems.
--
----
Andrew Langmead / [e-mail] / BIX a.langmead / CIS 72411,1560

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 14:23:39 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Classic Color info (Q)

I have two questions concerning the Classic Color. I suppose this has been
answered in the net before, but can't find the info anywhere.

First, can a ethernet card LC-like be attached to a Classic Color?

Second, does anybody have technical info about the CPU used in this Mac
model? What I want to know is the data bus width, i.e., is it 16-bit or
32-bit?

Please, send your answers to the following address: <[e-mail]>

Thanks in advance.

Carles Bellver
Universitat Jaume I - SPAIN
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 11:38:55 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Andrew Porter)
Subject: DEC Alphas & Macs

Some weeks ago there was a posting from someone mentioning that their Macs
couldn't
talk to a DEC Alpha via Ethernet.  I, too have this problem on a very mixed
network where the Mac can talk to Sparcstations, RS/6000s, HP 700s and others
without difficulty.  We're using MacTCP 1.1.1, eXodus and Fetch software.
Any ideas?

Andrew Porter

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 19:58:37 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: EndNote/Medline

> This now seems to me, as far as I can judge his program from this
> distance, rather silly, as Niles, Inc., the publishers of EndNote
> sell a rather inexpensive little (drop-in) utility for EndNote,
> called EndLink, that enables EndNote to automagically read NLM
> formated files (plus a whole slew of other formats) with no hassle at
> all.
>
> Still wondering...
>
> Henk Verhaar - [e-mail] Research Institute of
> Toxicology - Utrecht University, the Netherlands


Rather inexpensive?  If you're spending government grant money (i.e.
taxpayer's money) or university funds, then $100 might be "rather
inexpensive."  On a college student's budget, however, $100 is quite
a bit of money.  This utiltiy performs a service that I need, and it
does it for free.  What's to wonder?


                 Ken

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 14:00:16 EDT
From: "Mel Martinez"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Eudora Manuals (R)

On Thu, 1 Jul 93 15:03:12 PDT  Brian R. Gaeke <[e-mail]> writes:

> Mel Martinez writes:
> >Okay, now a request:  Could someone who has the manuals for Eudora v1.3.1
> >please save them in a readable format and send me a copy?   I would be
mucho
> >grateful!
>
> I think your flames were somewhat misdirected. Eudora's manual is
> in PageMaker 4.2 format.


First of all, they are not in Pagemaker format.  They are in MS Word format.
Steve Dorner writes the originals in Pagemaker, but a Qualcomm tech later
translates them to MS Word for distribution.  Steve promised to check that the
tech makes sure in the future to turn off 'fast save' when saving them.

Second of all, my flames were very clearly NOT directed at Steve or really
anyone at all who makes documents available for general distribution.  I am,
as
most people are, extremely grateful for the efforts of such people to make
software and information so easily available.  I was very specifically
criticizing (1) the fast save format itself and (2) the fact that MS Word
comes
up with it as the DEFAULT format instead of as a (foolish) option.

Based on the supporting comments of others about the 'fast save' format, I
don't
feel that my complaints are misdirected at all.

Cheers,

Mel Martinez
The John Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93  21:57:34 EST
From: Chris Tanski <[e-mail]>
Subject: Flow chart program

Please reply directly to [e-mail]. I am looking for a program,
available via FTP, that will allow me to design a flow chart. Even better
would be a program that will let me design a network which is my ultimate
task. Thanks in advance.

Chris Tanski

Owner of GOLF-L
Owner of BICYCLE
ctanski@onondaga
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu,  8 Jul 93 06:47:49 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Fortran 77 compiler for the Macintosh

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Subject: Fortran 77 compiler for the Macintosh

I am planning to obtain a Fortran 77 compiler for my macintosh (SE/30).
I would be interested in hearing about what compilers are available, prices,
advantages, disadvantages, personal experiences, etc.  [I am not interested
in C or any other language, since I have to run programs written in Fortran.]

Thank you, in advance, for any information you can provide.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 13:38:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Thoo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ftp site for PPD files? (C)

On 25 Jun 93 Tom Prusa <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Good news! I just ftp'ed the Laserwriter 8.0 print driver from Apple's
> ftp site.  Ftp over to ftp.apple.com, login anonymous.
> Look under the dts subdirectory (I think I found it under
> the dts/utils directory but it may have been dts/mac/utils....)
> This is a real boon, saving those of us with internet access
> $24.95....

I just searched <ftp.apple.com>, and found the LW8.0 driver disc images in

  dts/mac/sys.soft/imaging/laserwriter.8.0

Hope this is helpful to someone.

J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>
``My _real_ computer is a Macintosh.''

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 93 08:49:16 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Hard Drive Problem - A BIG ONE

    As for sticktion, I thought Sony had fixed that problem
with it's 40M hds? Still a possiblity. I have never seen sticktion
occur in 40M hds unless they were left off for a few days, but
that is just my experience.

    One reply I read stated cleaning the connector with an
eraser. While this is a good idea (that way you will know, if it
is sticktion--clean it off verify it works and leave it off for a
few days...). The eraser will damage the gold on the contacts (as
the author of the previous post informed you). He also stated that
you can get an expensive cleaner that will do the job and not
damage the contacts.

    I would like to offer one other solution to cleaning the
contacts. I have been told this will Not remove the gold from the
contacts. But the layer of gold is very thin, and I have no way/idea
if this is fact (if not please correct me). Either way it has to be
easier on the contacts than an eraser.

    Take a piece of paper (I ussually use tracker feed 20#, but to
each's own :-). Rub the paper on the contact of the drive, frequently
rotating the spot of the paper you are using to rub the contacts with.

    Good luck.

Later,
    Mike    [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:06:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ricardo C. Davis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Helix Express -- Is it any good?

The subject says it all.  I'm looking for a simple relational database
tool for Macs.  The Helix Express ads look convincing, but have any users
out there been burned?  Any unfulfilled promises by the vendor?  Any
joyous praise?  Any comparisons to other products OTHER THAN 4D?

Ricardo C. Davis                                 Internet: [e-mail]
* Freedom is not the right to choose, freedom is the result of wise choices.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 17:07:38 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #137

>The ultimate bash though, is his suggestion that we could buy a DOS machine
>running Windows because anecdotal evidence suggests their batteries last
>longer. Please, give me a break! Lets all chip in together an buy Mr. Lu
>another battery.I like Kawasaki's idea. Lets use DOS machines as
"displacement
>devices" to reduce the amount of water it takes to flush the toilet.


This too outraged me. I have yet to see any review of any intel based
machine suggest any Macintosh as an option within their review, even though
it would clearly be a VERY REASONABLE consideration. I work in both
environments - have a 386 laptop and a PB180. I am not posting to bash
Intel or Microsoft, but Windows doesn't hold a candle to Mac OS IMHO. I
also work on 486 desktop vs my IIci - on cross platform compatable software
(FMP, MS-WORD, MS-Excel), the speed difference is negligible when present.
It is frustrating that Windows is not truly multi-tasking - as I cannot be
in Windows and access our mainframe at the same time without additional
software (piece of cake on the IIci), but I digress. I agree with you,
Dave. I think the editors of PCWorld (opps, I mean MacWorld) are doing us
an injustice unless they start writing about Macs in PCWorld reviews as
well. I can accept that each platform has advantages/disadvantages, just be
fair in the amount of coverage you give each. Am contemplating not renewing
my MacWorld sx. Just my opinion.

Monty

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 93 11:07:29 EDT
From: "Charles A. Patrick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: La Cie

I thought I should get my oar into the water . . .

I am a relatively happy owner of a PocketDrive, which came to me in its first
incarnation in April 1992. My first post-purchase encounter with La Cie began
with a stiction problem which surfaced within six months. The entire
turnaround
 took about FIFTEEN days of elapsed time, in stark contrast to the promised
two day turnaround. Though it was of little comfort to me, there were
ameliorating circumstances: the drive had to cross the US-Canada border twice,
and notwithstanding the much-heralded Free Trade Accord Canada Customs and
associated brokers insisted on making their unwelcome presence known by
mis-lay
ing the package for several days. La Cie made its contribution by having their
inventory control festival on the Friday after the Thursday on which the drive
arrived, thus contributing five days to the delay. Thus apart from sitting in
various storage locations for the best part of TWELVE days, La Cie seemed
approximate their two promise. By the way, the drive was not repaired but
replaced, and the contents were transferred intact.
My second post-purchase encounter took place about three months ago, when the
(second) drive seized up. This time the turnaround took SEVEN days of elapsed
time, of which five were due the ministrations of Canada Customs and
associated brokers. Again, the drive was replaced, and the contents were
transferred intact.
My third post-purchase encounter took place about a week ago, when I phoned
La Cie Technical support about two problems I was having with the (third)
drive when using it with a Portable. The result of two subsequent diagnostic
consultations was that they are sending out the most recent version of
SilverLining and a new T-Connector.
I should add that in each instance the personnel at La Cie were courteous and
helpful, even in the face of my fulminations. In one instance, it was
necessary
 for me to move up two supervisory levels to obtain satisfaction, but since it
was dealing with my unwillingness to accept a recently adopted policy, this
recourse was understandable.
On balance, I have slightly mixed feelings. On the one hand I am enthusiastic
about the support that La Cie continues to provide me, on the other I am
slightly insecure about the continued health of my (third) PocketDrive, and
would feel a lot better if time-premium attached to the service turnaround by
the interventions associated with the crossings of the US-Canada border could
be obviated.
By the way I really like the PocketDrive and notwithstanding the foregoing
would probably purchase another drive from La Cie (and might even hazard one
on a scanner!)

Cheers.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 14:11:08 WET DST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: LaserWriter 8 and A4 paper as the default

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>[Please forgive the plethora of messages about LaserWriter 8!]

>I know this has been bandied about for some time now, but I still haven't
seen
>any CLEAR instructions on how to do this, so....

>Could someone please explain how to modify the LaserWriter 8 driver so as to
>default to A4 paper?

Perhaps I'm missing something here, but I just set it in page set up and
it works fine (need to do it on the desktop and in the application ?).
H. Sargan
Edinburgh University
UK

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Date: 9 Jul 1993 00:09:39 GMT
From: Ross Wylde-Browne <[e-mail]>
Subject: LASERWRITER IIg - Margin adjustment

I have a problem with a LaserWriter IIg which has the printing offset 2
to 3 mm to the left.  Apple information tell me they think there are
instructions on Applelink tech support giving Postscript code to correct
this problem.  Does anyone know anything about this?  It's a bit
frustrating having to reset the margins for every critical print job.

Ross Wylde-Browne
The Australian National University

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 18:19:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Eric Burger)
Subject: Mailserver for info-mac

Are the info-mac archives served by a e-mail server?  I don't have
direct Internet access...

Is the a FAQ?  Is there a FAQ listing?  <Please don't flame about
"yes, it's a FAQ, read the FAQ list in /info-mac/.../FAQ -- once
you tell me how to get at the info-mac archives, I'll have my FAQ
& can eat it too :-)

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 17:45:04 PDT
From: Brian R. Gaeke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Minitel

You can access Minitel through any PSINet PAD (B network).
Send a message to [e-mail] to get a list of access numbers.

Brian

--
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company   Internet E-Mail: [e-mail]
Finger my account to get my PGP public key.

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1993 16:19:51
From: [e-mail] (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: Minitel sites (A)

[e-mail] (Christopher Van Dyke) writes:

> Are there any sites in the U.S. supporting the Minitel system?
> There is a Minitel client interface for the Mac available in
> these archives and elsewhere, but there is no information included
> as to dialup sites.

Yes, there are dozens of dial-up sites.  This info is included in the client.

If you launch Minitel/MAC, and look under "Options: Telephone #", you will
get a little database of cities in the US (as well as around the world) that
have dial-up ports in them, and their phone numbers.

(Note that they changed the client interface in October 1992, and if the
emulator you have is earlier than 1.20a, I should upload a more recent
version.)

> Oh, BTW, Minitel is a FRENCH government-run system.

The US-based network, that you use to connect with France, is not.  It's
Minitel Services Inc, of New York.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 08:16:08 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Dave Hirsh)
Subject: New Product

I was reading MacWeek magazine and came across an ad for the 'ETC Purple
Bullet'
>From Mac&More down in Tampa, Florida. What this is is a Nubus card that you
can
put a 2.5 or 3.5" drive on and use like any other drive. The 2.5 drives get
their power from the Nubus slot while the 3.5 drives get power from the Mac
power supply. The drives are bootable and the card has a SCSI ID switch and
activity LED. If you have an old drive sitting around this could be a real
nice
new home for it.
Note: Be careful when shopping for used internal drives via mail order. One
popular shop up in Massachusetts was asking $449 for a used 210 Mb. Funny,
but the average price for a 240 NEW is $319. Shop around very carefully. Some
of these used equipment places need a reality check.

Dave Hirsh
Cincinnati,OH

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 14:43:22 BST
From: Jonathan Kolodny
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Peripherals for the Power PC (Q)

Dear netters,

I apologize if this is a really silly question, but I have been stretching
my HD to its limits, and am seriously considering the purchase of a new HD.
However, as I am also looking forward to buying a new machine in the next
6-8 months (if the Power PC's are released as promised), I am wondering if
there is any danger in buying a standard (Quantum) internal hard drive, in
terms of compatibility with the new machines.  For example, do I need to
purchase a low-profile drive, like those in the LC?  My current machine is
a IIci.  Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Cheers,

Jonathan Kolodny
MRC Applied Psychology Unit

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 13:56:59 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Alan Piszcz)
Subject: PowerBook/External Display/Finder 41 Error (Q)

Has anyone run into errors when using
SHUTDOWN on a PowerBook 160 with an external display?

Have a situation where the machine displays

a Finder 41 error which is

'dsFinderErr - can't load the Finder error'

After OK is selected and then displays

Bad fline trap, error dialog box.


Any ideas on this problem?

Without the DISPLAY plugged in it shuts down normally.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:06:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ricardo C. Davis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Problems Printing Labels from FileMaker Pro

Has anyone out there in netland experienced the following?

I want to print standard 3 1/2 x 1 inch labels on an ImageWriter
>From FileMaker Pro.  However, if I try to print more than 125 labels at
once, I get an error (-51).  Why do I have to print labels in chunks
of 125?

Ricardo C. Davis                                 Internet: [e-mail]
* Freedom is not the right to choose, freedom is the result of wise choices.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 11:48:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (Ryan Manwiller)
Subject: QuarkXPress 3.11 unexpectedly quits

I am having problems with quark 3.11 on a new Centris 650.
Seemingly at random, quark will unexpectedly quit and return to the
finder. The message is : Quark has unexpectedly quit, error 25.

I am pretty sure 3.11 is the latest version. So, I thought that maybe
some of the quark extensions were causing the problem. Could this be?
The quark extensions running are: Cool blends 1.0 , bob 1.0,
son of bob 1.0, features plus 1.5 and typesetting marks XT 1.0.

I am pretty sure its a quark problem, all other apps seem to work fine.
System extensions are the latest versions of: disinfectant, quickeys,
atm,type reunion,suitcase,disktop.

If anyone has any info they can share, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks much :)
ryan manwiller
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 16:30:40 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: sending serial port output to network (Q)

All:

Here's the problem, in all it's gory details: 8-)

We have an HP PaintJet XL and the latest Mac printer driver for it. It works
fine, but *requires* that I use a serial connection (i.e., select a printer
port: printer, modem). Most of the time, the printer is connected (through the
serial port) to a DEC MicroVAX II running Pathworks (for DOS and Mac). The DOS
machines print with no problems in this configuration. When it's time to print
>From the Mac, I have to stop the queue on the VAX, swap serial cables, print,
swap serial cables back again, and restart the queue. What I *want* to be able
to do is print from the Mac using the network, go through the VAX, and finally
come out the printer. This is exactly what happens when I use an HP LaserJet
III (w/PS): Mac, EtherTalk, VAX, RS232, LaserJet.

It seems like all I need is a 'redirector' (this is what the DOS machines
use:
it lets them define LPT1: as a network connection to \\machine\service). Can
someone point me to a redirector for Mac, if one exists? Something to let me
define the modem port as a network connection to an NBP service on EtherTalk.

TIA!

/\/\/\_ Eric Van Buren  [e-mail]
\ \ \   Immunology & Microbiology
 \_^_/  Wayne State University

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Date: 08 Jul 1993 06:17:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Aaron Barnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: setting up a list server

I want to set up a list server on  a mac that is on the net.
VersaTerm, WhiteKnight, and MacIntercomm have been recomended to me.
So what would you all recomend?  And any tips to get me started would
help alot.

thanks
aaron barnett

(im not on this list)
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 9:58:05 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: startup screen to 2nd monitor (R)

>I am running a Radius Pivot attached to my SE/30.  Although the Pivot is
>the "main" monitor where the menu bar appears, my startup screen appears on
>the inboard screen.  Can I get it to show on the Pivot?  Thanks.
>
Paul,

All you have to do is to open the Monitor Control Panel. When you hold down
the Option key you will see a Happy Mac icon in one of your monitors. While
still holding down the Option key drag this Happy Mac icon to which ever
monitor you want to be the startup monitor.

I hope this helps.


Vinko
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Work: [phone]                    Voice: [phone]
Home: [phone]                    AppleLink: CDA1051

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 93 13:11:12 EDT
From: Allan Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Real CrippleDrive Prob (reply to Chris Reed)

Chris Reed <[e-mail]> wants to know what's the big deal
with having Macs that eject the floppies from the use of a manual button
instead of automatically...[July 6 posting]

The problem is that the traditional Mac software is designed around a
storage disk that gets written to at odd times, unlike computers that
were designed to write immediately to the disk every time a relevant
command is executed.  That's why PC users can pop out a disk any time
other than during Saves or when booting a program, formatting the disk
itself, etc.  But the Mac is designed to be Shut Down or to be asked
to eject a disk before it is removed, and often is  DOES THINGS to the
disk before it gives it to you--updating file and desktop info, etc.

I have some sense of what Macs with CrippleDrives will be like:  my
friend has an Amiga with Macintosh emulation, and Amigas have manual
eject buttons.  The guide to the emulation program warns over and over
again that you have to get used to not ejecting the Mac disks until
the "eject disk" drive number icon appears on the menu bar, because
doing so may damage the information on the disk or interfere with the
program running, which thinks there is still a disk available in that
drive.

Since the cheap CrippleDrive Macs are allegedly designed to woo away
users of PC-compatibles and other cheap machines that use manual eject
buttons, this means that the users of these machines may well be used
to being able to eject a disk at virtually any time without consulting
the computer first.  My friend forgets occasionally about throwing the
disk icon in the trash can and just hits the button without thinking
about it.  So far nothing that Disk First Aid or MacTools Rescue can't
fix, but not the kind of thing that will impress new customers.  And
it's a software feature, not a hardware feature--unless the new Macs
come with their own operating system software, they will be vulnerable
to ejections at wrong times, too; and if they do come with their own
software, they will be only partially compatible with other Macs (of
course we already know about the incompatibility of the 800K drives).

- Allan Hunter
 <ahunter@sbccvm>

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 15:46:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (FIRST CLASS EMAIL)
Subject: Where be da Pere Ubu Stack?

Where is it?
I think it has a funny name, cause the archie search I did was fruitless.
Thanx in advance.
Luis

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 93 11:29:31 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Wingz/Improv (C)

Just to add to John Thoo's info from the MacWeek article on spreadsheets.
The same article said that Informix was going to revive Wingz by releasing
version 2 before the end of the year.

I hope MacWeek's source is better than mine. I called Informix and got the
same information - "Version 2 before the end of the year." I made the
call in April 1992.

More interestingly, the following issue of MW, in the course of an article
about the likely demise of Objective Software (nobody is buying Spreadbase)
appeared to say that Lotus will soon release Improv for the Mac. I suppose
it's ok that groundbreaking software should first appear on the NeXT
- but then move to *Windows*?? I guess I'll overcome my sense of outrage and
buy it, tho'.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 14:14:22 EST
From: [e-mail]

Hello All,

I'm helping a friend set up a database.  One of the requirements is
that the data be sharable with Windows machines.  I'm thinking of
suggesting that he use FileMaker Pro because there is both a Mac
and Windows version available.

Has anyone had any experience sharing database formats and data between
Mac & Windows versions of FileMaker Pro.  Does FileMaker Pro Mac offer
a "save as" option that creates a file that FileMaker Pro Windows can
read?  Does the Windows version offer a "save as" option for a format
the Mac version can read?  (transfering the files with PC Exchange or
something similar)

Responses to the list are fine, I read it every day, or if more
conveinant respond by email.

Thanks in advance for any help . . .
Hope this gets to the list, this is my first attempt at a posting to
Info-Mac.

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